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ben
October 17, 2007, 4:58am Report to Moderator

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Ok, check out this video.  Tell me, am i too dumb to understand this (and this is actually a legitimate argument) or am i too smart to think of an argument like this?  Check it out, let me know what you think.  PS, it's about evolution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw504

not to mention the banana argument video on the same page.  kirk cameron, grrr!
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Pickle
October 17, 2007, 6:02am Report to Moderator
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W...T...F?

Since when do people think lightning created life?  And how is normal light that sometimes shines on peanut butter even a little bit comparable to that?  

And who eats "billions" of jars of peanut butter every year?  There's his problem right there.

Oh, and what does any of that have to do with evolution?  Or atheism!  For crying out loud...

Edit:  Okay, just watched the banana one and did a bit of independent research.  2 out of the 4 bananas that I currently own have the ridges in the reverse position as the one in the video, which would make them point away from my face if properly lined up with the supposed ridges of the human hand in banana-holding poisition.  So I guess God has a 50% failure rate.  Bet the athiests are scared now!
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ben
October 17, 2007, 1:31pm Report to Moderator

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yeah, plus, i'm sure that's not how bananas used to look, just like how corn didn't used to be completely yellow.  my gosh, i really don't like it when people use illogical arguments for christianity!
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Joab
October 19, 2007, 3:37am Report to Moderator

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Their explanation of evolution is "energy plus matter can occasionally create life."  But from my understanding evolution doesn't have anything to do necessarily with the origin of life.  

What I do like about the argument is that life it self isn't a random occurrence brought on by combination of matter and energy.  The peanut butter thing is a marginally scientific example that is countlessly duplicated with the same result that is contradictory to the theory that "energy plus matter can occasionally create life".

What I think is stupid about this video is that the woman says that life from none life is a fairy tale.  That God's intervention in creation is an "obvious truth".  I think that there is very little truth in this world and it is far from obvious.  

Did that make any sense?

The Banana thing is just retarded.
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October 19, 2007, 7:28am Report to Moderator
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I think he's just trying to point out that no one has ever observed life being created from anything that wasn't alive to begin with, so why would anyone think that it had ever happened before?  Peanut butter is kind of an odd example, but it makes his point...sort of.  Yeah, the video's not about evolution--it's about the origin of life.  And yes, there are actually people who think that lightning created life.  

But the banana thing...what in the world?  That isn't an argument for anything, nor does it even make sense.

Also, Ben...I like your avatar.
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Pickle
October 19, 2007, 8:26pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Joab
I think that there is very little truth in this world and it is far from obvious.


That quote deserves some kind of award, or at least a cookie.

If someone were seriously trying to test the matter+energy=life theory, their experiment would be nothing at all like the peanut butter thing.  The amounts of matter and energy they're talking about as a possible originator of life are not even a little bit comparable to a jar of peanut butter with light and heat applied.  

If someone were trying to create a video for christians with very limited scientific knowledge to make them feel that the church's position on pretty much all things science has some sort of reasoning behind it, well this video is exactly what you would get.

[insert lightly sarcastic remark to offset the harshness of the preceeding paragraph]
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ben
October 26, 2007, 10:18pm Report to Moderator

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awesome.  i'm going to buy six myself and twenty banana slicer's for all my family member!
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